Comments on: ANZAC Day Must Be Opposed http://www.errantdispatch.com/2007/04/04/anzac-day-must-be-opposed/ Wed, 14 Oct 2009 05:19:11 +1300 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Wellington ANZAC Day Protest – Errant Dispatch http://www.errantdispatch.com/2007/04/04/anzac-day-must-be-opposed/comment-page-1/#comment-423 Wellington ANZAC Day Protest – Errant Dispatch Wed, 14 Oct 2009 04:32:42 +0000 http://anarchafairy.wordpress.com/2007/04/04/anzac-day-must-be-opposed/#comment-423 [...] I’ve covered my objections to ANZAC Day already. I only want to add that the level of nationalism and patriotism present was far worse than I had expected, and the demographics of those present – young, families, clean, white and middle class – coupled with the huge growth in numbers from last year alone makes the ANZAC day trends all the more worrying. [...] [...] I’ve covered my objections to ANZAC Day already. I only want to add that the level of nationalism and patriotism present was far worse than I had expected, and the demographics of those present – young, families, clean, white and middle class – coupled with the huge growth in numbers from last year alone makes the ANZAC day trends all the more worrying. [...]

]]> By: fuckyou http://www.errantdispatch.com/2007/04/04/anzac-day-must-be-opposed/comment-page-1/#comment-265 fuckyou Fri, 24 Apr 2009 13:10:22 +0000 http://anarchafairy.wordpress.com/2007/04/04/anzac-day-must-be-opposed/#comment-265 Fuckyou man, fuck you fuck you fuck you. Several of my uncles died in WW2 fighting for the freedom from the Tyrant of the German Warmachine. And you - you wortless piece of shit, sit here in the comfort of a free country and say we shouldn't remember it. Well FUCK YOU. Go and die, go live in an opressed country, and fucking die you worthless piece of shit. For your own safety I hope we never meet face to face. Fuckyou man, fuck you fuck you fuck you.

Several of my uncles died in WW2 fighting for the freedom from the Tyrant of the German Warmachine.

And you – you wortless piece of shit, sit here in the comfort of a free country and say we shouldn’t remember it.

Well FUCK YOU. Go and die, go live in an opressed country, and fucking die you worthless piece of shit.
For your own safety I hope we never meet face to face.

]]> By: Annie YaFace http://www.errantdispatch.com/2007/04/04/anzac-day-must-be-opposed/comment-page-1/#comment-264 Annie YaFace Wed, 16 May 2007 04:14:44 +0000 http://anarchafairy.wordpress.com/2007/04/04/anzac-day-must-be-opposed/#comment-264 in my opinion i think ANZAC day although yes it was a time of pain and death. it is celebrated to honour and thank those who gave their lives so we can remain a free country. i mean how bad would it be if the germans took over and did to us what they did to the poor Jewish religion. in my opinion i think ANZAC day although yes it was a time of pain and death. it is celebrated to honour and thank those who gave their lives so we can remain a free country. i mean how bad would it be if the germans took over and did to us what they did to the poor Jewish religion.

]]> By: The Value of the Dead | RADiance http://www.errantdispatch.com/2007/04/04/anzac-day-must-be-opposed/comment-page-1/#comment-263 The Value of the Dead | RADiance Wed, 16 May 2007 02:40:11 +0000 http://anarchafairy.wordpress.com/2007/04/04/anzac-day-must-be-opposed/#comment-263 [...] the “value” of war dead, depending on whether they are ours or theirs, is made here: ANZAC Day Must Be Opposed - the blog of the protesters I saw at the ANZAC Day service in Wellington. He writes: You will [...] [...] the “value” of war dead, depending on whether they are ours or theirs, is made here: ANZAC Day Must Be Opposed – the blog of the protesters I saw at the ANZAC Day service in Wellington. He writes: You will [...]

]]> By: Wellington ANZAC Day Protest « anarchafairy http://www.errantdispatch.com/2007/04/04/anzac-day-must-be-opposed/comment-page-1/#comment-262 Wellington ANZAC Day Protest « anarchafairy Wed, 25 Apr 2007 08:42:45 +0000 http://anarchafairy.wordpress.com/2007/04/04/anzac-day-must-be-opposed/#comment-262 [...] I’ve covered my objections to ANZAC Day already. I only want to add that the level of nationalism and patriotism present was far worse than I had expected, and the demographics of those present - young, families, clean, white and middle class - coupled with the huge growth in numbers from last year alone makes the ANZAC day trends all the more worrying. [...] [...] I’ve covered my objections to ANZAC Day already. I only want to add that the level of nationalism and patriotism present was far worse than I had expected, and the demographics of those present – young, families, clean, white and middle class – coupled with the huge growth in numbers from last year alone makes the ANZAC day trends all the more worrying. [...]

]]> By: Span http://www.errantdispatch.com/2007/04/04/anzac-day-must-be-opposed/comment-page-1/#comment-261 Span Tue, 24 Apr 2007 08:03:47 +0000 http://anarchafairy.wordpress.com/2007/04/04/anzac-day-must-be-opposed/#comment-261 Anna-Claire, I agree that women are not inevitable victims in war because of the nature of women, or biology or any bullshit like that. I actually mean the same thing you do, that the targeting of women during war (and at other times too) is both systematic and intentional, and part of the patriarchy. I don't like it either, and I want to change it. Thanks for your feedback. Anna-Claire, I agree that women are not inevitable victims in war because of the nature of women, or biology or any bullshit like that. I actually mean the same thing you do, that the targeting of women during war (and at other times too) is both systematic and intentional, and part of the patriarchy. I don’t like it either, and I want to change it. Thanks for your feedback.

]]> By: Anna-Claire http://www.errantdispatch.com/2007/04/04/anzac-day-must-be-opposed/comment-page-1/#comment-259 Anna-Claire Mon, 23 Apr 2007 03:07:59 +0000 http://anarchafairy.wordpress.com/2007/04/04/anzac-day-must-be-opposed/#comment-259 Span, Womyn are not inevitably victims in times of conflict. The Killing of womyn in war is systematic and intentional. Rape is used as a weapon of war. Womyn are the bearers of life, and weaking, destroying, controlling life is the aim of warmongers. But not too many cause they need a reliable source cannon fodder. Torrance, Go find someone over 60 and ask them about ANZAC day during the Vietnam years. Protestors got a pretty firey response doing something very similar to what you have planned. Is that what you're aiming for? a return to the glory days of anti-war protesting? It'd certainly be nice to see those kind of numbers involved again, need a mass for mass action. Span,
Womyn are not inevitably victims in times of conflict. The Killing of womyn in war is systematic and intentional. Rape is used as a weapon of war. Womyn are the bearers of life, and weaking, destroying, controlling life is the aim of warmongers. But not too many cause they need a reliable source cannon fodder.

Torrance,
Go find someone over 60 and ask them about ANZAC day during the Vietnam years. Protestors got a pretty firey response doing something very similar to what you have planned. Is that what you’re aiming for? a return to the glory days of anti-war protesting?
It’d certainly be nice to see those kind of numbers involved again, need a mass for mass action.

]]> By: Span http://www.errantdispatch.com/2007/04/04/anzac-day-must-be-opposed/comment-page-1/#comment-257 Span Sun, 22 Apr 2007 09:25:33 +0000 http://anarchafairy.wordpress.com/2007/04/04/anzac-day-must-be-opposed/#comment-257 Not sure if my response will come up in trackbacks anarchafairy, so here's a link: http://spanblather.blogspot.com/2007/04/anzac-spirit.html Not sure if my response will come up in trackbacks anarchafairy, so here’s a link:
http://spanblather.blogspot.com/2007/04/anzac-spirit.html

]]> By: Scott http://www.errantdispatch.com/2007/04/04/anzac-day-must-be-opposed/comment-page-1/#comment-254 Scott Wed, 18 Apr 2007 08:09:11 +0000 http://anarchafairy.wordpress.com/2007/04/04/anzac-day-must-be-opposed/#comment-254 Agree with Anna-Claire. Anzac day is a complex sort of affair -for quite a few people it's a reminder of the horrors of war and the suffering of vets. On the other hand there is a nationalist tub-thumping side to events, and in recent years there's been a depressing tendency to 'reclaim' Nam and WW1 as just wars. Tom O'Lincoln has some good stuff on the forgotten side of WW2 in Indonesia, East Timor and other pats of the Asia-Pacific theatre: http://readingthemaps.blogspot.com/2007/01/good-war.html#links Agree with Anna-Claire. Anzac day is a complex sort of affair -for quite a few people it’s a reminder of the horrors of war and the suffering of vets. On the other hand there is a nationalist tub-thumping side to events, and in recent years there’s been a depressing tendency to ‘reclaim’ Nam and WW1 as just wars.

Tom O’Lincoln has some good stuff on the forgotten side of WW2 in Indonesia, East Timor and other pats of the Asia-Pacific theatre:
http://readingthemaps.blogspot.com/2007/01/good-war.html#links

]]> By: Anna-Claire http://www.errantdispatch.com/2007/04/04/anzac-day-must-be-opposed/comment-page-1/#comment-260 Anna-Claire Sun, 08 Apr 2007 08:34:30 +0000 http://anarchafairy.wordpress.com/2007/04/04/anzac-day-must-be-opposed/#comment-260 A few years back, before I went overseas, the thursdays in black women in Otautahi would hold a silent vigil at the dawn ceremony in the Square with a banner saying "In rememberance of women and children killed in war" as a silent protest to the exclusion of these unpeople in the official proceeding. I am trying to get women interested in doing something similiar this year. I think we have to be gentle in our protests on ANZAC day. Realise that the old men involved have been psychologically damaged and victimised by their country. Make it clear who we hold responsible, what we want changed. (And the agitating required to overcome the nationalist sentiments being fermented in Aotearoa need to be year round!) A few years back, before I went overseas, the thursdays in black women in Otautahi would hold a silent vigil at the dawn ceremony in the Square with a banner saying “In rememberance of women and children killed in war” as a silent protest to the exclusion of these unpeople in the official proceeding.
I am trying to get women interested in doing something similiar this year.
I think we have to be gentle in our protests on ANZAC day. Realise that the old men involved have been psychologically damaged and victimised by their country. Make it clear who we hold responsible, what we want changed.
(And the agitating required to overcome the nationalist sentiments being fermented in Aotearoa need to be year round!)

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